Arcanum AZF

[OmegaShadow]

Hi, I was searching about sexual magick and I came across this information about the Arcanum AZF (A.Z.F. stands for A (agua, water), Z (azufre, sulfur), F (fuego, fire), and is thus: water + fire = consciousness), a tantra technique for sexual energy transmutation. As a whole it seems pretty interesting but, for what I've read so far, it has a lot of strict rules one has to follow, for example:

• The practice has to be done by a married couple (male- female)

• The productive organs of the individuals have to be intact, no vasectomies, no tubal ligation

• No condom use allowed

• One have to get rid of the "animalistic" sexual impulse

Among other things...
This makes me wonder:

• Is the vasectomy really an issue? If the goal is not to spill the seed in order to transmute it into higher energy, wouldn't that procedure be helpful to that endeavor?

• Isn't the "animalistic" sex drive part of the whole exercise? Could they be referring to lust? Is lust bad for a sexual magick practice?

I'm sure there are other currents of thought regarding the subject, with their own rules, but these strike me as pretty peculiar, so I wanted to share this, hoping you shared your thoughts about as well.

[Týsköll]

Hi, I was searching about sexual magick and I came across this information about the Arcanum AZF (A.Z.F. stands for A (agua, water), Z (azufre, sulfur), F (fuego, fire), and is thus: water + fire = consciousness), a tantra technique for sexual energy transmutation. As a whole it seems pretty interesting but, for what I've read so far, it has a lot of strict rules one has to follow, for example:

• The practice has to be done by a married couple (male- female)

• The productive organs of the individuals have to be intact, no vasectomies, no tubal ligation

• No condom use allowed

• One have to get rid of the "animalistic" sexual impulse

Among other things...
This makes me wonder:

• Is the vasectomy really an issue? If the goal is not to spill the seed in order to transmute it into higher energy, wouldn't that procedure be helpful to that endeavor?

• Isn't the "animalistic" sex drive part of the whole exercise? Could they be referring to lust? Is lust bad for a sexual magick practice?

I'm sure there are other currents of thought regarding the subject, with their own rules, but these strike me as pretty peculiar, so I wanted to share this, hoping you shared your thoughts about as well.

These requirements listed seem to be about purity.

• Marriage: Not out of wedlock and dedicated to each other (opposed to sex outside marriage as a "sin").
• In tact: No deformation, mutilation, corruption or otherwise to the flesh.
• No condom: Nothing between the flesh contact/preventing fluid transfer.
• No animalistic: Control of the mind. As with other practices, the ability to focus on whatever one needs to (in this case the transmutation of energy) requires being able to full focus on, not get lost or be distracted by whatever else is going on. Single minded, pint point intent to match control of emotion, as with other things and stuff.

I may be wrong but that's how it seems to me, it's a purity of being thing. A ritual in another time would've dictated virgin sheets, robes, candles, etc. to accompany the rest of what seems to focus around having states of purity as a focus.

As for whether lust is bad for magickal practices, it really depends on what is being done. Again, this all seems to focus around purity.

[OmegaShadow]

Thanks for the insight, I pretty much understand the importance of self-governing, have a clear mindset, stillness of heart, (maybe purity related?), and a healthy body, but, is it really an inconvenient, in general, for magickal practices to have some kind of physical wound, mutilation or surgery, in this case vasectomy?

[Týsköll]

Thanks for the insight, I pretty much understand the importance of self-governing, have a clear mindset, stillness of heart, (maybe purity related?), and a healthy body, but, is it really an inconvenient, in general, for magickal practices to have some kind of physical wound, mutilation or surgery, in this case vasectomy?

All magick? In general? No.

"sexual energy transmutation" ?
I'm not sure and I've never set out to do that particular thing, but it seems - purity aspect aside - it's probably related to whether or not you're able to raise up the sexual energy in the first place.
In that case I could probably explain and justify that if the man can get and maintain an erection then he's raising that sexual energy.
Considering that even though the tube is cut the testes still produce sperm and the body still produces seminal fluid, the two are just not mixed, I think it's entirely possible for the sexual energy to infuse in the semen(lacking the sperm) and thus transmuted. From what little I understand of the process you're talking about this is supposed to be a tantric thing anyway, so what does the ability to produce sperm have to do with it? Surely it's the moment of orgasm that is the final *kaboom* in the process that is entirely energy based. Or is it being tied to DNA? There's DNA in the semen regardless of sperm.

Anyway, as said I don't know. Though purity could be cited as a reason some entity, god or energy doesn't align quite right, but I think a vasectomy as discussed could be justified as not fully limiting. Maybe.

Anything fertility related I think is probably a different story.

And of course, castrati are something else entirely.

[OmegaShadow]

And of course, castrati are something else entirely.

¿Is this because their male energy has been altered / interrupted? Even thought they cannot restore their genitals, ¿is it possible for them to restore or at least improve their energy?

[Týsköll]

And of course, castrati are something else entirely.

¿Is this because their male energy has been altered / interrupted? Even thought they cannot restore their genitals, ¿is it possible for them to restore or at least improve their energy?

Well, they're castrated to prevent testosterone related developments and whilst I can't say from experience I'm entirely intact, I think a core part of the male experience and male energy relates to defining aspects of being male. Can someone get by in masculine magick with just a "spirit cock" ?
Dunno, I dare say everything is all sorts of messed up regarding it. It feels like it'd be difficult to raise up the masculine energy without being a man where it counts.

Restore/improve/spirit dick it? Maybe. Testosterone supplements, masculine activities, simulation in however the hell they can manage.
Definitely gonna go with a maybe on that one. Seems like the hard road though for sure.